Note: Any reader who is familiar with the original question sheets for the extended interviews on pawnage that were sent to Dr. E.B. Bolaji in 1989 will see that, on the transcript made in 2020, I have slightly amended the numbers given to questions, where it is advisable to improve clarity, and I have added sub-headings to enable the reader to navigate these long interviews more easily. All the questions remain exactly the same, and in the same order.